Hey, Miles Beckler here, milesbeckler.com
in this video I’m going to discuss why I have left Clickfunnels and I’m also
going to explain where I moved my membership system to now that I’ve left
Clickfunnels. So about a year year and a half ago I joined click funnels in order
to move and migrate and kind of grow my membership system loved the funnel
aspect loved the ability to test funnels quickly and to get my landing pages my
sales pages up relatively quickly but the challenge came in the actual
membership site delivery first and foremost the their members area doesn’t
allow you much if any customization at all there’s no deep linking URLs to the
different modules for the different lessons and overall it was just a poor
user experience on the search function for example crashed it I reached out to
their support I will work on it at some point never got done another problem
that arrives with some of my paying customers we’re getting walked out of
their membership system Clickfunnels for some reason with an active
membership subscription would simply cancel their access in click funnels
even though they were still on monthly subscription I actually sat down I
physically took my laptop and went to their support at the click funnel
seminar that I went to and I sat down to show them because they weren’t
responding via email they were saying oh that’s on your end oh that’s not our
problem the general passed the buck kind of support that really aggravates me as
a customer finally I sat down with them they did a temporary fix it was never
fully resolved and the final straw that broke the camel’s back was when I found
out that I have dozens possibly hundreds of people who had access to my
membership content who weren’t on an active stripe subscription their
subscription either canceled they canceled it or a payment failed and for
some reason click phone did not pick this up and continued to give them
access some people for over a year I’ve already found about seven or eight
people who had access for over a year it’s four hundred and forty four dollars
per year per person so I’ve already found thousands of dollars that have
been kind of dropped by click funnels and from my kind of research it looks
like there’s dozens if not hundreds of more
people in that same sort of situation so I decided that was it once it hit my
pocketbook and it was financially affecting me it was worth it to move and
moving websites is and content management systems is always really
challenging if generally speaking a last resort to move everything over and at
that point it became a last resort so where did I move to I moved to a
wordpress-based system I realized that in dealing with
their support and in dealing with their lack of support actually and the “Pass the
Buck” mentality they had I need to be in a situation where I could hire
developers and I could essentially be in control I need to be the captain of my
ship I don’t want to be a passenger on someone else’s ship that’s going in a
destination that might not be where I want it to go so that’s why I went to a
wordpress-based system the theme I’m using is thrive themes and thrive themes
is fantastic for building the funnels on the front end but you also have what’s
called their apprentice system if you’ve never seen it actually I’ll put a link
below in the video or you could google thrive apprentice system and what it
does is it allows you to create a module and lesson based layout so now I have
different modules in different lessons for all of the products that get opened
up for my customers when they become members I’ve got a search function now I
can deeply people directly to the lessons that I want them to go to plus
I’m working on adding some really cool functionality like a forum that’s going
to be inside of there and just really playing with the look and making a great
user experience you know at $37 a month even though that’s only what, a dollar
twentyfive per day I still take that very seriously when our customers are paying
that and I want to make sure that they’re getting the best possible
experience that they can and that’s why we’ve literally spent over two and half
months and there were 10 different people who worked on it hired migration
specialists my team I have my wife and I literally hundreds of hours and
thousands of dollars have gone into this migration so it was a well thought out
idea and on my shopping cart I’m using thrive cart which is a very simple
shopping cart that allows me to run my funnel which is an opt-in to a dollar
trial to a membership to an annual upsell I have a video on that funnel
that’s working very well for us right now and for the
actual access I’m using active campaign and active member 360 active campaign is
an email management system that has a tagging based system it’s similar to
confusion soft but it’s very very simple to use and it’s very user friendly and
their plug-in active number 360 uses the tags that are inside of active campaign
to decide whether a specific user has access to certain content so a new user
will get access to week one after they’re through their week trial they
get access to month one whereas a user who’s six months in after they make
their next payment they get access to month number seven and all of that drip
content is done very intelligently through active campaign and active
member 360 so this move was actually an email service provider move for me it
was a platform move a content management system it was a steam move it was
intense to make this move and I’m so happy and I’m so thankful that I’ve made
the move you’re building a membership system I highly highly recommend you
consider creating an option that is not based on clickfunnels they have let me
down in a major way and it has cost me literally thousands of dollars and
months of my time in backpedaling plus I had people who were getting access to my
stuff for free and as a membership kind of site owner that’s that’s the part you
know quick funnels doesn’t accidentally give their software to people for free
so I don’t know why it didn’t work for me but it sure didn’t so and their
support wasn’t really there to help me with it so witness click funnels a good
idea right like I don’t want this to be all trash talking about click funnels
clicks tunnels is essentially a step above leadpages if you are kind of
trying to get your opt-in page going if you’re trying to sell an e-book if you
have a simple course that has three modules and four lessons in each module
it’s going to work perfect one-time products it works really well for that
kind of stuff it was the annual and the monthly and the rebilling system that
was required for the monthly membership that really made it
not very well feasible all in all I think thrive themes is a better option
because you have full control I does require some WordPress skills and
possibly bringing on a wordpress developer luckily you can find WordPress
developers in the Philippines in India in Eastern Europe for five to ten
dollars per hour and they’re really good at what they do
upwork.com is a great place to find them so if you were curious why I left click
funnels if you were curious what my new marketing stack looks like there you
have it I’m happy to answer any of your questions in here at this point the
membership system is working brilliantly I’m really excited about the future I’m
now on a platform that I can continue to add functionality and that’s really
important to me and it’s really important to my users I feel to have
that kind of best possible customer and user experience they can on click
funnels that just simply look there but on thrive themes and WordPress I’m in
control and that’s where I feel like I need to be this is a long term business
I’m building and I take it very very seriously and that’s why after literally
months of wondering am I going to move is it worth it God for me a lot of work
I did commit to the process and boy on the other end I’m thankful I did so if
you’re just starting membership system consider going straight to thrive themes
and a wordpress plugin to manage that access I love active campaign and active
number 360 it’s working really really well and that’s all for this video so I
hope to have more positive exciting stuff about what I’m doing my funnels I
just launched another new funnel myself over the weekend why not launch another
funnel after you just finish your membership system maybe I’m not crazy
workaholic maybe I’m just excited to get this stuff out and I’ll update you on
that as it comes thanks again for watching give me a thumbs up here in
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your marketing stack is I’d love to know what you’re working with and how you
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